Unambiguous support for democracy was thin on the ground throughout Europe. Guglielmo Ferrero remarked in 1925 that democracy's failure in Italy was chiefly due to the lack of a strong democratic party. But not only in Italy. The core group of old-time liberals were marginal figures in the inter-war years, their battles largely won with the defeat of monarchs and aristocracies....Mass suffrage threatened them with a marginal political role in the face of the great parties of the Left, of conservatism and nationalism, and of Catholicism. Fear of communism, in particular, drew many liberals toward authoritarian solutions. They were joined there by other kinds of elitists--the social engineers, business managers and technocrats, who wanted scientific, apolitical solutions to society's ills and were impatient with the instability and incompetence of parliamentary rule.Now, if this was true in early 20th century Europe, the most democratic part of the world (other than America), then how successful can 'liberal democracy' possibility be in places where 'the democratic support on the ground' is super thin? For example, in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Many conservatives, for their part, were no happier with inter-war democracy and were keen to see a return to more elitist, aristocratic and occasionally even monarchical modes of governnment. For them the problem with democracy lay in the power it gave the masses, in the supposed incompatibility of democracy and authority. They were prone to attack democracy on ethical grounds too. It placed too much stress on rights and not enough on duties. It had bred egotism and sectional self-interest and had thus contributed to its own downfall by failing to encourage a civic consciousness or a sense of community....
Last night in that Rachel Maddow interview with the Iraqi family, after saying the government couldn't even provide electricity, the father of the family said that what he wanted was 'one leader'. Doesn't sound like parliamentary democracy's going to succeed there either.
Which leads me to this final citation about the purposes of our being in Iraq. A veteran of Iraq had spent his time in Iraq trying to train Iraq troops and had very little support in doing so from his American army superiors. He believed we were there to spead democracy. But after returning home to America and ruminating on the purposes of the invasion and occupation, the soldier said this in The American Conservative:
I returned home in September 2005, grateful and safe, but stripped of the illusions I had taken with me. My experience proved that contrary to countless official pronouncements, the Bush administration has no interest in the Iraqi army training program. We were fighting a war to establish permanent bases in Iraq to better manipulate the flow of Middle East oil. For if this war was about human rights, why were we not in Rwanda? If our mission was about bringing democracy to a region, then why were we not in Cuba? And if the intelligence leading up to this war was merely faulty, why was no one fired?Military bases and oil. Maintaining, if not expanding, the American Empire. That's why we're over there.
I believed in my mission, and I wanted the Iraqis I was training to run their own country. But this wasn’t an American priority, and I left Mosul feeling that my efforts were either erased or ignored.
There is no doubt that the vast majority of wars fought in recent history have been over natural resources, hidden behind the most popular mask at the time. Democracy is a joke in countries like Afghanistan and Iraq.... (one could easily argue that it is THE joke in America, for that matter) these civilizations have been around long before the very concept was developed. There is no question that it will never take hold. So, yeah, in these areas, it is ultimately about natural resources. Our children give their lives for such a ridiculous cause, imo. That is why I never encouraged my boys to go, nor would I ever...
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